Driftwood Conversations is a weekly podcast hosted by journalist Hilary Sloane, sharing soulful conversations with artists, seekers, and everyday revolutionaries. Each episode offers stories that connect us to the world—and to each other—through truth, wisdom, and the grit of lived experience.

In this episode, Hilary sits down with her longtime friend Steve Cuden, a writer whose creative life has spanned Broadway, television, film, and teaching. Their friendship stretches back more than four decades, and that history allows them to speak honestly about what it really means to stay with the work. Learn about doubt, discipline, revision, and the uncomfortable moments that shape a creative life—not as failures, but as necessary companions. This is a conversation about endurance, friendship, and the long game of making art.

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